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DRMUD

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ALL ABS CONTROL MODULE FAILURES PLEASE READ!!!
Posted: Jan 8, 2004 1:28 PM
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I wanted to get everyones serial number-letter on the failed ABS control modules to see if there is consistency. I have (2) P models on failure right now. The part number is visible on the top of the ABS brake line module - 8E0614111 with a letter at the end...

Just reply to this topic and let me know what letter you have that has failed.

Thanks
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Re: ALL ABS CONTROL MODULE FAILURES PLEASE READ!!!
Posted: Jan 8, 2004 1:31 PM   in response to: DRMUD in response to: DRMUD
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Just found a third posting for another P failure by jcbauer
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Re: ALL ABS CONTROL MODULE FAILURES PLEASE READ!!!
Posted: Jan 8, 2004 2:18 PM   in response to: DRMUD in response to: DRMUD
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I have the A4 2.8 Quattro 97" and my module No: 8E 0614 111A
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Re: ALL ABS CONTROL MODULE FAILURES PLEASE READ!!!
Posted: Jan 8, 2004 11:04 PM   in response to: DRMUD in response to: DRMUD
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It seems that my salvage yard guy read the part that he found wrong. Dealer states that there is no such thing as an R. The newest made by Bosch is the Q.

All 1998 - early 2000 Passats have the P module from the factory...so no wonder only the P's have failed.....

As for the Audi A4's, it may be that it is a glich in P module and earlier letters....

It makes me wonder why in the dealer's part system that they just came out with the replacement Q for this after manufacturing of the vehicles had ceased.... I think they know of the problem being more than just conicidental.
pkvoss

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Re: ALL ABS CONTROL MODULE FAILURES PLEASE READ!!!
Posted: Jan 9, 2004 1:06 AM   in response to: DRMUD in response to: DRMUD
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Will an ABS control module from an A4 '97 or '98 V6 ******* work on an A4 '96 V6 *******?
How about a 2000 S4? Their all ABS 5.3...right????
TIA.
96 PASSAT night...

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Re: ALL ABS CONTROL MODULE FAILURES PLEASE READ!!!
Posted: Jan 9, 2004 7:14 PM   in response to: DRMUD in response to: DRMUD
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Mine has been failing for one year I have a 96 Passat VR6
the ABS modulehas failed I will get back to you with the number. Is there a class action or something?
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Posted: Jan 9, 2004 7:28 PM   in response to: 96 PASSAT night... in response to: 96 PASSAT night...
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No class action ... I wish we could reach all Audi/VW owner who are having this problem so they could report their problem to Audi/VW of America.

I thought that I was on to something when there seemed to be more letter thans just P's on the 98-2000 Passats... little did I know that all Passat's built in this time had the P model in them...

It will be interesting to see what year Audi's and earlier Passats have however...
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Re: ALL ABS CONTROL MODULE FAILURES PLEASE READ!!!
Posted: Jan 26, 2004 11:51 PM   in response to: DRMUD in response to: DRMUD
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I also have a recent module failure of a 111B which the dealer tells me has been updated to 111F. My failure mode turns on the warning light(s) but I honestly don't know if the system is still functional or not.
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Re: ALL ABS CONTROL MODULE FAILURES PLEASE READ!!!
Posted: Jan 27, 2004 12:31 PM   in response to: jraswfla in response to: jraswfla
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I phoned Audi regarding what module replaced my current one which was 8E061411A, and I was informed its changed to 8E061411E (97 A4 Q 2.8 30v). Now I ask myself why did they change the part number if the current one's are ok!!! hummm
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Re: ALL ABS CONTROL MODULE FAILURES PLEASE READ!!!
Posted: Jan 27, 2004 9:35 PM   in response to: docurley in response to: docurley
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I have the same question for the VW's. It states on the parts screen at the dealer that all P's must be replaced with the Q model. They obviously know of a defect.... ****** me off.
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Re: ALL ABS CONTROL MODULE FAILURES PLEASE READ!!!
Posted: Feb 5, 2004 4:51 PM   in response to: DRMUD in response to: DRMUD
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Thanks for starting this thread. My 2000 1.8T is suffering from the same problem. Upon reading the posts of a few Passat and A4 owners who had their Bosch ABS units replaced for free by VW/Audi I contacted (after getting a dealer estimate to replace the unit to the tune of $1400) VW's Customer Care Advocate who politely told me they wouldn't do anything to help.

This seems to be a common enough problem. Hopefully VW will take some action. I'll post my serial no. here tonight when I get home from work.
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Re: ALL ABS CONTROL MODULE FAILURES PLEASE READ!!!
Posted: Feb 5, 2004 11:26 PM   in response to: AndrewTF in response to: AndrewTF
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The number on mine is: 8E0 614 111 AH. I'm pretty sure there was an "H" at the end, not just an "A".
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Re: ALL ABS CONTROL MODULE FAILURES PLEASE READ!!!
Posted: Feb 6, 2004 3:55 AM   in response to: AndrewTF in response to: AndrewTF
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Numbers do vary from car to car, I would advise contacting your dealer or if no help VW direct and ask them if there is a new part number for your car. Mine was 111A but was changed to 111E (Why change a part number if the old ones good!!!) In the end I didnít want to pay £1,200 for a new module even though my dealer wanted to change my cluster, instead I bought a second hand one from a breaker for £125 shipped Inc of tax. I could not find a 111E for my A4 2.8 so settled for a 111A and hope this one last my lifetime with the car.

Fitting the part was quite easy with a little force to move the break pipes (carefully though) and then bleed the breaks all the way round (this is a must). Took me an hour to replace then 45 minutes to bleed the breaks. Now no more lights flashing and good old ABS working again.

All I have too do now is replace the rad that Audi told was my water pump (which I had replaced) only to find out after I got the car back that it was not that.
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Re: ALL ABS CONTROL MODULE FAILURES PLEASE READ!!!
Posted: Feb 6, 2004 3:55 AM   in response to: AndrewTF in response to: AndrewTF
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Numbers do vary from car to car, I would advise contacting your dealer or if no help VW direct and ask them if there is a new part number for your car. Mine was 111A but was changed to 111E (Why change a part number if the old ones good!!!) In the end I didnít want to pay £1,200 for a new module even though my dealer wanted to change my cluster, instead I bought a second hand one from a breaker for £125 shipped Inc of tax. I could not find a 111E for my A4 2.8 so settled for a 111A and hope this one last my lifetime with the car.

Fitting the part was quite easy with a little force to move the break pipes (carefully though) and then bleed the breaks all the way round (this is a must). Took me an hour to replace then 45 minutes to bleed the breaks. Now no more lights flashing and good old ABS working again.

All I have too do now is replace the rad that Audi told was my water pump (which I had replaced) only to find out after I got the car back that it was not that.
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Re: ALL ABS CONTROL MODULE FAILURES PLEASE READ!!!
Posted: Feb 6, 2004 9:37 AM   in response to: docurley in response to: docurley
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I am going to do the same. I am going to opt for the P model. Obviously there are thousands upon thousands of working P models out there. My dealer said they haven't seen one come through there yet. I have found used modules with 90 day warranty's for $150. I will post the results when it is done.
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Re: ALL ABS CONTROL MODULE FAILURES PLEASE READ!!!
Posted: Feb 6, 2004 8:03 PM   in response to: DRMUD in response to: DRMUD
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Has anyone else in the US filed a complaint with the NHTSC? Seems to me if enough people with this problem did so it might get someone's attention. I checked out their website and found three complaints for 2000 Passat ABS control module failure and added one of my own.

Here's the link to the NHTSC's consumer complaints page:

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/complain/

This would seem to be a safety issue as --although in my case the ABS system seems to be working ok-- it's impossible to tell whether or not there is a real braking system emergency.
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Re: ALL ABS CONTROL MODULE FAILURES PLEASE READ!!!
Posted: Feb 7, 2004 9:10 PM   in response to: DRMUD in response to: DRMUD
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The abs control module on my 2000 Passat went bad @ 54,000 mi. The dealer wants $1,150.00 to fix. Given the fact that this car has continuous electrical / computer problems, I've contacted VW and asked them to do something about it. They blew my off! I want to replace my abs control module my self, but I don't know where to get one. I have searched the web with no luck. Could somebody please e-mail me a clue? coppagruv@aol.com.

Thank you!

ih8vw
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Re: ALL ABS CONTROL MODULE FAILURES PLEASE READ!!!
Posted: Feb 7, 2004 9:19 PM   in response to: docurley in response to: docurley
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One more thing, where is this part located exactly? As far as the serial # goes, "P" is bad, and "Q" is good. Right? I will post my serial # as soon as I find the module. What a hassle!!!!!!!!
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Re: ALL ABS CONTROL MODULE FAILURES PLEASE READ!!!
Posted: Feb 8, 2004 12:53 PM   in response to: ih8vw in response to: ih8vw
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If you look under the bonnet you will see a unit with six brake pipes coming out of it, normally four on top and two on the side if this don't help let me know and I will take a pic.
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Re: ALL ABS CONTROL MODULE FAILURES PLEASE READ!!!
Posted: Feb 8, 2004 3:42 PM   in response to: DRMUD in response to: DRMUD
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I'm seeing intermittent ABS light on/brakes light blinking on my '99 Passat 1.8T (83Kmiles). VAG-COM shows the infamous 01203 error code. While I have not confirmed that the Bosch 5.3 module is the culprit, the symptoms are typical. My part number is 8E0 614 111B.

If anyone knows of a junk yard where I could get a replacement unit, or has successfully negotiated a free repair on an out-of-warranty Passat, I'd like to hear about that.

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