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Volkswagen Air-Cooled VW: 1952-1979 Buying a collector Bug 68-75+-


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Last Post: Dec 21, 2009 10:22 AM Last Post By: TomB
markymarkvw

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Buying a collector Bug 68-75+-
Posted: Dec 21, 2009 8:56 AM
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I settled a law suit and happen to have some extra cash this Christmas. So dear old dad has an
itch for a bug. To keep. To drive. To cherish until it gets passed on to the kids or grand kids....

I am looking at 68 to 75 maybe 76 models. What I am concerned about is the Fuel Injection model(s) that I have been viewing. Some have had the injection system pulled then carbs put in place.

I am a long time VW owner. I already own 14-16 model. All water cooled. Fox's, diesels, Vanagons, Passats, Jettas, 16V's, VR6's etc. Yes a diesel Vanagon too. And yes, you do not use starting fluid on a diesel motor. I just sucked a glow plug end into the #3 of my Caddy truck. This week I hope to get that Rabbit back on the road again with a new piston installed.

My 79 Rabbit has fuel injection system which works great. No issues.

So what is the deal with the 76 Bugs which have the fuel injection system. I in fact, am out specifically looking at fuel injected models. My first car was a 59 Ghia with that crash box trans and 36hp. (How I wished I had IT back). In high school I had a 68 autostick. (waaaaay back in the groooovy era babeeee)

Can someone clue me in on the issues with the fuelie model Bug. What issues with the injection system if any. I would assume VW has generic computers. Or ECUs.

I've located several in the Nevada area which are tow-able back to Central Cal. One in Washington State. But it seems the vast majority I have seen in California are chopped up. I want stock. Not some lowered hacked up model that I have to convert back to stock. I want one bone stock.

THANKS!

PS: Why are the Super Beetles looked down upon in some respects. Is it a bug thing or? I am looking at a 73 for 2300
TomB

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Re: Buying a collector Bug 68-75+-
Posted: Dec 21, 2009 10:22 AM   in response to: markymarkvw in response to: markymarkvw
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I prefer the F.I. Beetles for daily driving, as they can be very reliable. Bug people generally don't understand F.I. systems, and also tend to think older is more desireable. Usually ripping out the F.I. and going to carb is a mistake, provided you can find good working F.I. parts. They are still quite available in classifieds on the Samba and sometimes on Volkswebbin.
Superbeetles are certainly "Beetles" - and are identical from the dashboard back, as the differences are all in the front and dash. They changed to strut front suspension, larger trunk, and in 73 to a more modern dash and curved windshield. Enthusiasts claim they are the best riding and handling. However, like must strut suspension cars of that time, they can develop shimmies that take work to eliminate. Standard Beetles win for simplicity and parts availablility.
The Superbeetle design ceased production in 79 (or 80), but the standard Beetle stayed in production continuously through 2003 in Mexico, and before that in Brazil. They were just never imported into the USA. But as a result you can still get new factory-built engines and many genuine VW parts.
For daily driver use I think the best Beetles are really the late 90s to 2003 Mexican made Beetles. These have a more modern Digifant Engine Management System like the wtercooled VWs that controls both mixture and ignition. They also have hydraulic lifters that don't need adjusting (similar to the Vanagon waterboxer engine), a real spin-on full-flow oil filter, and thicker heads with 3/4" reach plugs that hold up very well. Otherwise it's a 1600cc Beetle engine. They also have standard front disk brakes. A number of these were imported by being "remanufactured" onto an older US registered chassis. I have two of them that my wife and I drive daily. My 2000 (on 73 chassis) also has A/C (new 134A system), has almost 60,000 miles and still runs like new. I've changed spark plugs twice, and otherwise only change the oil (synthetic) once a year and adjust the rear brakes. A very trouble-free car. You might keep an eye out for these "MexiBeetles."

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