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Tom 1

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2001 gti after stalling out the car won't start because dead battery
Posted: Nov 30, 2007 8:07 PM
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I have a 2001 gti 5 speed. If I should stall out and try to restart the battery is dead.I have put a new batery in and still have the same problem. Any help would be great. Thanks

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Re: 2001 gti after stalling out the car won't start because dead battery
Posted: Nov 30, 2007 9:50 PM   in response to: Tom 1 in response to: Tom 1
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How are you able to get it running "before" you stall out?

Are you jump starting the engine or push starting the engine?

If the engine runs fine, then the charging system is good
(otherwise it would not continue to run)... so you either
have a bad battery (does not keep a charge) or you have a
starter/ignition switch problem.
Tom 1

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Re: 2001 gti after stalling out the car won't start because dead battery
Posted: Nov 30, 2007 11:37 PM   in response to: FKH161 in response to: FKH161
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The car starts and runs great all the time. the problem is if I stall it by taking my foot off the clutch to fast(I'm still learning to drive a stick) and try to start it up the battery won't be able to start it.As I said it has a new battery.I just bought the car so I don't know if this was a problem before. Thanks again.

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Re: 2001 gti after stalling out the car won't start because dead battery
Posted: Nov 30, 2007 11:48 PM   in response to: Tom 1 in response to: Tom 1
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So how long do you have to wait before it will start again?

You have to be a bit more descriptive when you say acts like
a dead battery.

Does the starter turn slowly or not at all?

If the starter turns the engine over at normal speed... but
the engine just won't run on its own, then that is not a
battery problem, but rather a fuel or spark problem.
Tom 1

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Re: 2001 gti after stalling out the car won't start because dead battery
Posted: Dec 1, 2007 8:12 AM   in response to: FKH161 in response to: FKH161
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90% of the time the car does not start after stalling. I have to get a jump to get going. When I get a jump it starts right up. When I try to restart it either there is a clicking sound like the battery is dead or there is no sound at all when I turn the key.Thanks

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BUGGSY

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Re: 2001 gti after stalling out the car won't start because dead battery
Posted: Dec 1, 2007 12:50 PM   in response to: Tom 1 in response to: Tom 1
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FHK161 is right about your ignition switch possibly being
faulty. You might also check your ground connection from the battery to chassis. Make sure both positive and negative connections are solid and clean. if yes, check out the connector for terminal 50 on the starter. If all is good, check the ignition switch for function.
Buggsy
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Re: 2001 gti after stalling out the car won't start because dead battery
Posted: Dec 1, 2007 12:52 PM   in response to: Tom 1 in response to: Tom 1
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Do some "voltage drop tests" across all the battery & alternator
connection... this will tell you if there is a bad connection
(too much resistance) in one of the cables.

Voltage Drop Testing procedure:
http://www.aa1car.com/library/voltage_drop_testing.htm

or

http://www.vernco.com/sparks/id606.htm

What happens when you manually activate the starter under
the hood? Find the starter and apply battery power from
the "+" terminal to the solenoid "trigger pin" on the
starter (#3 on this picture).

http://faculty.ccp.edu/faculty/dreed/Campingart/jettatech/nocrankdiag/starterprea.jpg

If the starter turns every time you use a wire to activate
the solenoid, then you have a problem in the power supply
circuit to the solenoid.

If the starter does not turn like this or just clicks, then
you have a starter problem.
2000VR6

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Re: 2001 gti after stalling out the car won't start because dead battery
Posted: Jul 17, 2010 9:06 PM   in response to: Tom 1 in response to: Tom 1
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Saw this post while looking for something else and since my car just got fixed with this problem I figured I will share it with you. First thing you need to do is have the car scanned. A local parts store can do it for free. I would assume there is a code that reads "fuel pump relay short to ground", or something like that. This is what happened with my car. This relay was bad and because of the way the wiring is designed when this fails it feeds current back into other parts of the car causing problems such as the one you are having. I got picked up a relay for about $40 at the local parts store and replaced it. Problem went away. Hope this helps.
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